[10] Conclusion: Mission Impossible or Impassable?! [Speaker claims that criticisms directed at Greenlane’s Admin are based on Ignorance and Desires]

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Allaah (The Most High) said:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَكُونُوا مَعَ الصَّادِقِينَ

”O you who believe! Be afraid of Allah, and be with those who are truthful.” [9:119]

Allaamah Rabee Bin Haadi Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve him) said:

We call to the methodology of the Salaf—to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger.  We utilize them as proofs in our creed; in our acts of worship; in our stances; in our relationship with the rulers and the ruled and in our relationship with the groups and sects.  As for others, they play games and tricks.  By Allaah! You do not find them except that they play tricks and games with the passion (or inclinations) of the youth. http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=114620

Tameem Ad-Daari (radiyallaahu-anhu) reported that the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) said:”Indeed, the religion is Naseehah, the religion is Naseehah, the religion is Naseehah; they said: ‘’To who O Messenger of Allaah? He said: ‘’To Allaah, His Messenger, to the leaders of the Muslims and their common people.” [Reported by Muslim]

Al-Allaamah Saaleh Al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said:

The meaning of ‘Naseehah’ is Al-Khuloos (purity). It is said that something is ‘Naasih’ meaning: It is free from deceit. And it is said: ‘A-sa-lun Naasihun’ (Pure Honey), ‘La-ba-nun Naasihun (Pure Milk), meaning: Free from deceit and bad mixtures. This is how it is (with regards) to the religion of Islaam, for indeed it is free from every falsehood and deception, cheating and treachery. It is a pure and unadulterated religion. Likewise, the Muslim’s apparent (affairs) are the same as his hidden (affairs), upon purity and safe from evil manners, treachery, and betrayal and other than that. As for the one who cheats, deceives and plots, or his apparent (affairs) are in opposition to his hidden (affairs), this trait is not from the Religion. The Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) confined the religion within (Naseehah –purity and sincerity), and the confinement of something necessitates that something else cannot enter into it. [1]

This is the first affair we advise ourselves, Abu Usaamah and Greenlane’s Admin. One has to be truthful to this blessed Salafi Methodology. We do not play tricks by hiding behind some personalities [Who are considered to be upon the Sunnah], whilst on the other hand we co-operate with ahlul bidah and those who defend them. Indeed, this will not benefit a person as Shaikh Ubaid Al-Jaabiri (may Allaah preserve him) said: ”A scholar from Ahlus Sunnah is only a human. He can be distracted and forgetful, and he can be deceived by evil people.” [2] Likewise, we do not pick and choose what to establish in Salafiyyah; rather we are obligated to establish this Manhaj with clarity, just as Shaikh Rabee (may Allaah preserve him) stated: ”We call to the methodology of the Salaf—to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger.  We utilize them as proofs in our creed; in our acts of worship; in our stances; in our relationship with the rulers and the ruled and in our relationship with the groups and sects.  As for others, they play games and tricks.  By Allaah! You do not find them except that they play tricks and games with the passion (or inclinations) of the youth.”

Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) also said:”There is none who hides behind the Sunnah– the people beguiled by him, gathered around him to learn, adhered to him, became dependent on him and accepted everything he said–except that Allaah will reveal his affair, uncover and expose his concealed state of affairs to specific individuals and to the general public, regarding what was hidden and apparent of his deception, his mixing truth with falsehood, his plots and deceitful practices.  Allaah facilitates men of virtue, intelligence, wisdom, strength and exceptional natural ability–possessors of knowledge, skill and sound understanding of the religion–through whom He (Allaah) unveils the affair of that trickster, dubious and deceitful person.” [3]

The Salafi Masaajid and Maraakiz in the UK are upon clarity but Greenlane’s Admin and Abu Usaamah are not! They cannot hide their reality because their companions, friends and confidants are none else but the hizbiyyoon of Ihyaa Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute, Adnaan Abdul Qaadir, and some of those who openly defend and praise some of the leading figure heads of Ikhwaaniyyah and Qutubiyyah -Salman, Safar, Qarni, Qaradaawi, Ar’oor, Abdur-Rahmaan Abdul-Khaaliq etc

This is the reality of Greenlane’s Admin and Abu Usaamah. Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said: “And Imaan is known about a man, just as all the states of his heart are known by way of his (outward) allegiances, enmities, his rejoicing, anger, hunger, thirst, and other such affairs. For these matters have certain outward binding necessities (lawaazim dhaahirah) and the outward matters necessitate inward matters. And this is a matter known, the people know this concerning the one that they have experienced and tested (jarraboohu wamtahinoohu) [4]

All praise is due to Allaah–neither are the Salafiyyoon ‘yes men’, as Ibn Mas’ood (radiyallaahu-anhu) said: ”Do not be [إمعة–yes men], saying: If the people are good (or righteous), we are good (or righteous); and if they do wrong (or become unrighteous), we do wrong (or become unrighteous); but make up your mind; If the people do good (or are righteous), then be good (or righteous). If they do evil, then do not do wrong’’ [Al-Mishkaat Number: 5129. Shaikh Albaani (rahimahullaah)]

Nor are the Salafiyyoon guilty of blameworthy Taqleed, as Ibn Abdul Barr (rahimahullaah) said:”According to the scholars, Taqleed (i.e. blind adherence) is other than Ittibaa [i.e. adherence to an authentic affair narrated from the Messenger-sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) and obviously with the correct understanding of the Salaf]; because ittibaa is to follow a person based on what is apparent to you of the superiority of his statement and soundness of his school of thought. And Taqleed is that you speak with his statement, whilst you neither know the angle of his speech nor its meaning and you reject speech besides it; or his mistake is made manifest to you, but you follow him and venerate his opposition, whilst the corruptness of his speech is clear to you. This is what is forbidden to speak with in the religion of Allaah (The Most High).” [5]

Rather the Salafiyyoon are callers to the methodology of the Salaf—to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger, as Shaikh Rabee (may Allaah preserve him) stated: ‘’They utilize them as proofs in their creed; in their acts of worship; in their stances; in their relationship with the rulers and the ruled and in their relationship with the groups and sects.’’ And they neither follow mistakes to justify their stances nor do they claim Salafiyyah, whilst accompanying the people of bidah and hizbiyyah.

Abu Hurairah (radiyallaahu-anhu) said that the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) said: ”A person is upon the deen of his friend, so let each one of you look at whom he befriends.” [As-Saheehah. Number: 927. Translator: Spubs]

Ibn Mas’ood (radiyallaahu-anhu) said: ”Indeed a person walks alongside and accompanies the one whom he loves and who is like him.” [Al- Ibaanah 2/476. Translator: Spubs]

Abu Ad-Dardaa (radiyallaahu-anhu) said: ”It is from the fiqh (understanding of a person) that he [chooses]  those whom he walks with, whom he enters upon (visits) and whom he sits with.” [Al Ibaanah 2/477. Translator: Spubs]

Al-A’mash (rahimahullaah) said: ”They (the Salaf) did not used to ask anything more about a person after having asked three affairs: who he walks with, who he enters upon (i.e. visits) and who he associates with amongst the people.” [Al-Ibaanah 2/478. Translator: Spubs]

Ibn Awn (rahimahullaah) said: ”Those who sit with the people of innovation are more severe upon us than the people of innovation themselves.” [Al Ibaanah 2/273. Translator: Spubs]

Indeed, the companions, confidants and allies of Greenlane’s Admin and Abu Usaamah are well known, therefore we neither give any consideration to the praises given to them by Dr Ali Shibl, nor are we affected by his attacks, claiming that the criticisms directed at Greenlane’s Admin are based on ignorance and desires…..!!!

Therefore, it is incumbent upon Dr Ali Al-Shibl to speak with justice and advise Greenlane’s Admin to abandon their vain desires and stop defiling the name of Salafiyyah. They must refrain from confounding truth with falsehood. But if they persist, then they are warned against for defiling the name of Salafiyyah. And the most important thing is that the Salafiyyoon [by the Tawfeeq of Allaah] should continue to follow the evidences and never become distracted by the views and stances of people if they are in opposition to the clear and unambiguous knowledge based proofs; for indeed [الحق لا يعرف بالرجال ولكن الرجال هم الذين يعرفون بالحق  The truth is not known by way of men (i.e. what men merely say just because they are such and such), but men are known by way of the truth (i.e. the statements and views they hold that are in conformity with the truth)]. [6]

Likewise, [من علم حجة على من لا يعلم   The one who knows is a proof against the one who does not know]. Shaikh Ubaid Bin Abdullaah Al-Jaabiri (may Allaah preserve him said: ”The one who knows of a mistake and it is clear to him, then it is not permissible for him to blindly follow a scholar to whom an affair is hidden. [7]

Finally: We leave the reader with the following beautiful observations of Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) and Al-Allaamah Abdur-Rahmaan Ibn Yahyah Al-Mu-allimee (rahimahullaah), which should serve as an advise for all of us…

Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said:

O Yasir Qadhi – [Ikhwaani Deviant and Associate of Greenlane’s Admin]-You still affirm the Satanic Pledge of Mutual Respect between You and other Deviants! Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah Unveiled the Affair of Such Deceitful Deviants

Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said:

On the other side of those who make Takfeer based on falsehood, there are a people who do not know the creed of Ahlus Sunnah Wal-Jamaa’ah as it is obligated; or they know some of it and are ignorant of some of it.  They conceal what they know of it and do not clarify it for the people. They neither forbid innovations (which is) what is in opposition to the Book and the Sunnah nor do they rebuke Ahlul Bidah and punish them; rather perhaps they would rebuke a statement in the Sunnah and a fundamental of the religion completely and would not differentiate between what Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaa’ah say and what Ahlul Bidah Wal Furqah (The people of innovation and splitting) say; or they would affirm all their differing ways, just as the scholars would affirm the different opinions in places where Ijtihaad is permitted [i.e. due to the ignorance of these people and deliberately hiding the truth, they would affirm the correct path of Ahlus Sunnah and the corrupt path of ahlul bidah, whilst seeking to falsely imitate the scholars of Ahlus Sunnah in their affirmation of the different opinions in issues of permissible Ijtihaad].

This path has overwhelmed many of the Murji’ah; some of the jurists; those who pursue the path of asceticism and the philosophers, just as it has overwhelmed first and foremost many amongst the people of desires and rhetoric.  And both these paths (i.e. the path traversed by those who do not clarify the haqq and those who seek to condone all the divergent paths of deviation) are deviated paths outside the Book and the Sunnah. Rather what is obligatory is to clarify that which Allaah sent His Messengers with and (revealed) in His Books–propagating that which the Messengers brought from Allaah and fulfilling the covenant which Allaah took from the scholars.

Therefore, it is obligatory to know that which the Messengers brought–having belief in it, propagating it, calling to it and striving upon it. And to weigh up all that which the people embark upon- [with regards to statements, actions, religious fundamentals, subsidiary (issues) related to the apparent actions of the Limbs and affairs related to actions of the heart]- under the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger; and neither following desires (through) customs, a school of law, a religious order, a leader or a predecessor; nor following conjecture through a weak hadeeth or corrupt Qiyaas, regardless whether it a Qiyaas that offers some degree of certainty or not; or blindly following someone regarding whom it is not obligated to follow his statement and action, for indeed Allaah—in His Book- has censured those who follow conjecture and that which their souls desire, whilst they abandon the guidance that came to them from their Lord. [Majmoo Al-Fataawaa 12/467-468]

Al-Muallimee (rahimahullaah) said:

The Religion comprises of various levels: Abstinence from the prohibited affairs and fulfilment of commandments; acknowledgment of truth, belief in it and awareness of it.  And opposing one’s desires by refraining (from falsehood) for the sake of the truth is something very clear, for indeed most of what is prohibited are the lusts and (evil) pleasures.  And it may be that a person does not really desire anything of those (prohibited) things in particular, but he merely desires them due to an opponent. Opposing one’s desires–by way of action– for the sake of the truth is a manifest affair due to what it necessitates of responsibility and difficulty, and this occurs from different angles:

Firstly: A person sees that by acknowledging the truth it would necessitate that he was upon falsehood, because a person is nurtured upon a religion, creed, school of thought or views which were inherited from his nurturer and teacher, and which he considers to be the truth; so when it is manifested that those affairs are falsehood, it becomes difficult for him to acknowledge that. This is because he sees that the deficiencies of his teacher or nurturer necessitate his own deficiencies, and an acknowledgement of their misguidance or errors necessitates his own deficiencies.

Secondly: It may be that clinging to falsehood brings him prestige, fame and a livelihood, so it becomes difficult for him to acknowledge that he is upon falsehood, which may result in a loss of all those things (i.e. the fame, prestige, livelihood etc).

Thirdly: Pride: It may be that a person is upon ignorance or falsehood, so another person comes along and clarifies the proofs for him; but he sees that by acknowledging such proofs, it would necessitate that he is deficient and that it was such a person who guided him. And due to this we find that it is not difficult for some of those who attribute themselves to knowledge to acknowledge their mistakes when it becomes manifests to them in their researches and studies, but it becomes difficult upon them when others clarify such mistakes for them.

Fourthly: Envy: It may be that when another person clarifies the truth for him, he sees that by acknowledging such truth, it would necessitate an acknowledgement of the clarifier’s virtue, knowledge and correctness due to that clarification; so this may become great in the eyes of the people and they begin to follow him. So you will find some of those who attribute themselves to knowledge being eager to prove the mistakes of other scholars even if that is done by way of falsehood, due to envy and seeking to diminish their status amongst the people.

Opposing one’s desires for the sake of the truth in affairs of knowledge and creed can be difficult, so it requires research and contemplation. Also in facing such difficulty one is in need of asking the scholars and benefitting from them. So with regards to what has been stated about a person’s acknowledgement of the truth and the difficulty in doing so, he should cling to Taqwah, whilst seeking the Tawfeeq of Allaah and guidance. [8]

Shaikh Abdullaah Bukhaari: http://salaficentre.com/2013/03/shaikh-abdullaah-al-bukhaari-reasons-for-persistence-upon-falsehood/


And Allaah knows best. We ask Allaah for Ikhlaas, Thabaat and Husnul Khaatimah. Aameen


[1] Abridged. Minhatur-Rabbaaniyyah Fee Sharhi Ar-ba’een An-Nawawiyyah: page: 112].


[3] http://salaficentre.com/2013/08/2-an-eye-opener-for-the-seeker-of-truth-alallaamah-ubaid-bin-abdillaah-al-jaabiri-answers/

[4]Minhaaj-as-Sunnah 8/475 Translation:Salafipublications.com]

[5]End of Quote: Jaami Bayaan Al-Ilm Wa-Fadlihee: 2/787]

[6] see here for further details: http://www.sahab.net/forums/?showtopic=130921


[8] Slightly paraphrased and abridged…for further details, see: At-Tankeel Bimaa Fee Ta’need Al-Kawthariy Minal Baatil. Vol 2. Page: 180-181. with the checking of Imaam Albaanee (rahimahullaah)






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